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Norm Brown

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For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tuckersolutions/index.html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown


Alice Dilts

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Very nice site. Thanks for reactivating it. AsI do my research I am finding a lot of my Tucker line went to Kentucky fromVirginia. Does anyone know of a good online class to take to learn aboutGeneology? My research is leading me to believe I am related to "Ole" DanTucker. This is something I found during my research.

Alice Tucker Dilts

Originally submitted by reylara to Nan Macon's Family on 2 Dec 2007

Notes forCAPT. ROBERT TUCKER:
Harold Lawrence writes in his book THE TUCKER BAND, Tuckers andRelated Fa milies, page 2: Before 1712, Capt. Tucker had surveyed and patentedla nd in Prince George, Co, VA, in the area that later became Amelia Count y.According to Abstracts Land Patents, on 7-15-1717, Robert Tucker paten ted 141acres in Prince George County for fifteen shillings. He probab ly gave or soldthis parcel of land to his oldest son before 1736. It is n oteworthy thatalthough Capt. Robert Tucker patented land in Prince Geor ge County as well asAmelia County, it is unlikely he moved from coun ty to county. He probably livedhis entire life in the same area while t he counties were divided andsubdivided.

During 1727, Capt. Tucker acquired some 500 additional acreson Wotocamai ck Creek and Middle Creek. In October, 1741, he deeded to son John1 65 & 1/2 acres for L100; to son George 200 acres for L70; and to son Robert 165 acres for L100. In August, 1744, he acquired 176 acres in Amelia C ounty(after Amelia County was formed from Brunswick and Prince George Cou nties in1734). Capt. Robert Tucker died in Amelia County in 1750. His w ife, followed byhis son Daniel, inherited this parcel of land. Also nam ed in his will were children Joseph, Sarah, and Robert. An abstract of t he will, as found in WillBook 1, Amelia County, VA (173501761 ), p. 63 is as follows:

"RobertTucker, written 26 September, 1744; proven 18 May, 1750. Wit. Jo hn Cordie, Jr.,Henry (x) Hasten, John Powell. Ex. son Robert. Leg. wife M artha, land andplantation on where I live for life; then to son Daniel; s on Joseph, daughterSarah Clay; son Robert; rest of personal est. to be eq ually divided between mychildren. No appraisem*nt to be made. Slaves: Ne gro men Joe, Dick; Negro girl,Sall."

An inventory of the estate of Capt. Robert Tucker was made on3-15-1750 a nd is recorded in Will Book 1, pg 73 of Amelia County, VA. Itincludes t he following possessions of Capt. Robert Tucker:

"1 Negrofellow named Joe, 1 Negro fellow named Dick, 1 Negro girl named S all, 2 featherbeds and furniture, 3 sheets, 2 pillows, 9 leather chair s, 2 large blackleather trunks, 1 oval table, 1 square table, 2 large old ..., 1 pair pistolsand holsters, 1 fence sword, 1 old hand iron, 1 pair s tillards, 1 pair firetongs, shovel..., 1 iron pot rack, 3 iron pots, 1 br ass kettle,..., 1 fryingpan, 1 box iron,..., 2 iron wedges, 2 narrow ad ze (?), 3 flat dishes, 1 deepdish, 9 new plates, 5 old plates, 1 doz. n ew spoons, 9 old spoons, 2 old pewtertankards, 1 old looking glass, 1 dri nking glass, 3 butter p..., 1 cane sieve, 1 sifter, 1 grindstone, 1 candle sticks, 1 Bible, 1 Testament, 1 gallon stone jug,6 glass bottles, 2 cid er casks, 1 beer cask,..., 1 pr. new cart wheels, 1brush, 1 old bay hors e, 1 young horse, 12 head of cattle, 5 calves, 11 head ofsheep, 17 he ad of old hogs, 29 shoats of about a year old, 2 pewter basons, 1ivory co mb, 1 horn comb. Robert R. Tucker, Esq.

Children of CAPT. TUCKERand ELIZABETH PARHAM are:
6. i. JAMES4 TUCKER, SR., b.1698, Charles City, VA; d. October 19, 1770, Mecklinburg Co., Va. 7. ii. ROBERTTUCKER, JR, b. 1706, Prince GeorgesCounty, VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 8. iii. GEORGE TUCKER, SR., b. 1710, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1784,Lunenberg Co., VA. 9. iv. JOHN TUCKER, SR., b.Abt. 1712, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 10. v. WILLIAMTUCKER, SR., b. Bef. 1720, PrinceGeorge Co., VA; d. Aft. 1785, Amelia Co., VA.
Children of CAPT.TUCKER and MARTHA EPPSare:
vi. ANNE4 TUCKER, b. August 29,1719. Notes for ANNE TUCKER:
Bristol Parish Register: Anne dau: of Robt & Martha Tucker bornAug: 29 th last bapt octobr 9th 1720.
11. vii. JOSEPHTUCKER, b. June 22, 1722, Prince George Co., VA; d.1798, Prince Edward County, VA. 12. viii. DANIEL TUCKER,b. January 1723/24, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1792, Wake Co., NC. 13. ix. SARAHTUCKER, b. May 10, 1725; d. Aft. 1782.

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From: Norm Brown

To: TUCKERS@...

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:59 AM

Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated


For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tuckersolutions/index.html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree! <G>

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown


Katherine James

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Alice, how do you think you are related to "Old Dan" Tucker. My reason for asking is my brother is off only one marker with the other descendants of Daniel Tucker and I would love to find the missing line.

Katherine James (bro. 83997)

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-------------- Original message from "Alice Dilts" : --------------

Very nice site. Thanks for reactivating it. As I do my research I am finding a lot of my Tucker line went to Kentucky from Virginia. Does anyone know of a good online class to take to learn about Geneology? My research is leading me to believe I am related to "Ole" Dan Tucker. This is something I found during my research.

Alice Tucker Dilts

Originally submitted by reylara to Nan Macon's Family on 2 Dec 2007

Notes for CAPT. ROBERT TUCKER:
Harold Lawrence writes in his book THE TUCKER BAND, Tuckers and Related Fa milies, page 2: Before 1712, Capt. Tucker had surveyed and patented la nd in Prince George, Co, VA, in the area that later became Amelia Count y. According to Abstracts Land Patents, on 7-15-1717, Robert Tucker paten ted 141 acres in Prince George County for fifteen shillings. He probab ly gave or sold this parcel of land to his oldest son before 1736. It is n oteworthy that although Capt. Robert Tucker patented land in Prince Geor ge County as well as Amelia County, it is unlikely he moved from coun ty to county. He probably lived his entire life in the same area while t he counties were divided and subdivided.

During 1727, Capt. Tucker acquired some 500 additional acres on Wotocamai ck Creek and Middle Creek. In October, 1741, he deeded to son John 1 65 & 1/2 acres for L100; to son George 200 acres for L70; and to son Robe rt 165 acres for L100. In August, 1744, he acquired 176 acres in Amelia C ounty (after Amelia County was formed from Brunswick and Prince George Cou nties in 1734). Capt. Robert Tucker died in Amelia County in 1750. His w ife, followed by his son Daniel, inherited this parcel of land. Also nam ed in his will were children Joseph, Sarah, and Robert. An abstract of t he will, as found in Will Book 1, Amelia County, VA (173501761 ), p. 63 is as follows:

"Robert Tucker, written 26 September, 1744; proven 18 May, 1750. Wit. Jo hn Cordie, Jr., Henry (x) Hasten, John Powell. Ex. son Robert. Leg. wife M artha, land and plantation on where I live for life; then to son Daniel; s on Joseph, daughter Sarah Clay; son Robert; rest of personal est. to be eq ually divided between my children. No appraisem*nt to be made. Slaves: Ne gro men Joe, Dick; Negro girl, Sall."

An inventory of the estate of Capt. Robert Tucker was made on 3-15-1750 a nd is recorded in Will Book 1, pg 73 of Amelia County, VA. It includes t he following possessions of Capt. Robert Tucker:

"1 Negro fellow named Joe, 1 Negro fellow named Dick, 1 Negro girl named S all, 2 feather beds and furniture, 3 sheets, 2 pillows, 9 leather chair s, 2 large black leather trunks, 1 oval table, 1 square table, 2 large old ..., 1 pair pistols and holsters, 1 fence sword, 1 old hand iron, 1 pair s tillards, 1 pair fire tongs, shovel..., 1 iron pot rack, 3 iron pots, 1 br ass kettle,..., 1 frying pan, 1 box iron,..., 2 iron wedges, 2 narrow ad ze (?), 3 flat dishes, 1 deep dish, 9 new plates, 5 old plates, 1 doz. n ew spoons, 9 old spoons, 2 old pewter tankards, 1 old looking glass, 1 dri nking glass, 3 butter p..., 1 cane sieve, 1 sifter, 1 grindstone, 1 candle sticks, 1 Bible, 1 Testament, 1 gallon stone jug, 6 glass bottles, 2 cid er casks, 1 beer cask,..., 1 pr. new cart wheels, 1 brush, 1 old bay hors e, 1 young horse, 12 head of cattle, 5 calves, 11 head of sheep, 17 he ad of old hogs, 29 shoats of about a year old, 2 pewter basons, 1 ivory co mb, 1 horn comb. Robert R. Tucker, Esq.

Children of CAPT. TUCKER and ELIZABETH PARHAM are:
6. i. JAMES4 TUCKER, SR., b. 1698, Charles City, VA; d. October 19, 1770, Mecklinburg Co., Va. 7. ii. ROBERT TUCKER, JR, b. 1706, Prince Georges County, VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 8. iii. GEORGE TUCKER, SR., b. 1710, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1784, Lunenberg Co., VA. 9. iv. JOHN TUCKER, SR., b. Abt. 1712, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 10. v. WILLIAM TUCKER, SR., b. Bef. 1720, Prince George Co., VA; d. Aft. 1785, Amelia Co., VA.
Children of CAPT. TUCKER and MARTHA EPPS are:
vi. ANNE4 TUCKER, b. August 29, 1719. Notes for ANNE TUCKER:
Bristol Parish Register: Anne dau: of Robt & Martha Tucker born Aug: 29 th last bapt octobr 9th 1720.
11. vii. JOSEPH TUCKER, b. June 22, 1722, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1798, Prince Edward County, VA. 12. viii. DANIEL TUCKER, b. January 1723/24, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1792, Wake Co., NC. 13. ix. SARAH TUCKER, b. May 10, 1725; d. Aft. 1782.

----- Original Message -----

From: Norm Brown

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:59 AM

Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated


For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tuckersolutions/index.html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown


Alice Dilts

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I have not had either of my brothers do the DNA test andIam just following what I have found on Ancestry.com. As I said I amnew to this so would like to find a class to take so I can understand whatI need to do to have the paper trail. I don't even understand how I shouldshow it to email it so you could follow the trail I am on!

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From: kjames34@...

To: TUCKERS@... ; TUCKERS@...

Cc: Alice Dilts

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:31 AM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

Alice, how do you think you are related to "Old Dan" Tucker. My reason for asking is my brother is off only one marker with the other descendants of Daniel Tucker and I would love to find the missing line.

Katherine James (bro. 83997)

-------------- Original message from "Alice Dilts" <alicedilts@...>: --------------

Very nice site. Thanks for reactivating it. As I do my research I am finding a lot of my Tucker line went to Kentucky from Virginia. Does anyone know of a good online class to take to learn about Geneology? My research is leading me to believe I am related to "Ole" Dan Tucker. This is something I found during my research.

Alice Tucker Dilts

Originally submitted by reylara to Nan Macon's Family on 2 Dec 2007

Notes for CAPT. ROBERT TUCKER:
Harold Lawrence writes in his book THE TUCKER BAND, Tuckers and Related Fa milies, page 2: Before 1712, Capt. Tucker had surveyed and patented la nd in Prince George, Co, VA, in the area that later became Amelia Count y. According to Abstracts Land Patents, on 7-15-1717, Robert Tucker paten ted 141 acres in Prince George County for fifteen shillings. He probab ly gave or sold this parcel of land to his oldest son before 1736. It is n oteworthy that although Capt. Robert Tucker patented land in Prince Geor ge County as well as Amelia County, it is unlikely he moved from coun ty to county. He probably lived his entire life in the same area while t he counties were divided and subdivided.

During 1727, Capt. Tucker acquired some 500 additional acres on Wotocamai ck Creek and Middle Creek. In October, 1741, he deeded to son John 1 65 & 1/2 acres for L100; to son George 200 acres for L70; and to son Robe rt 165 acres for L100. In August, 1744, he acquired 176 acres in Amelia C ounty (after Amelia County was formed from Brunswick and Prince George Cou nties in 1734). Capt. Robert Tucker died in Amelia County in 1750. His w ife, followed by his son Daniel, inherited this parcel of land. Also nam ed in his will were children Joseph, Sarah, and Robert. An abstract of t he will, as found in Will Book 1, Amelia County, VA (173501761 ), p. 63 is as follows:

"Robert Tucker, written 26 September, 1744; proven 18 May, 1750. Wit. Jo hn Cordie, Jr., Henry (x) Hasten, John Powell. Ex. son Robert. Leg. wife M artha, land and plantation on where I live for life; then to son Daniel; s on Joseph, daughter Sarah Clay; son Robert; rest of personal est. to be eq ually divided between my children. No appraisem*nt to be made. Slaves: Ne gro men Joe, Dick; Negro girl, Sall."

An inventory of the estate of Capt. Robert Tucker was made on 3-15-1750 a nd is recorded in Will Book 1, pg 73 of Amelia County, VA. It includes t he following possessions of Capt. Robert Tucker:

"1 Negro fellow named Joe, 1 Negro fellow named Dick, 1 Negro girl named S all, 2 feather beds and furniture, 3 sheets, 2 pillows, 9 leather chair s, 2 large black leather trunks, 1 oval table, 1 square table, 2 large old ..., 1 pair pistols and holsters, 1 fence sword, 1 old hand iron, 1 pair s tillards, 1 pair fire tongs, shovel..., 1 iron pot rack, 3 iron pots, 1 br ass kettle,..., 1 frying pan, 1 box iron,..., 2 iron wedges, 2 narrow ad ze (?), 3 flat dishes, 1 deep dish, 9 new plates, 5 old plates, 1 doz. n ew spoons, 9 old spoons, 2 old pewter tankards, 1 old looking glass, 1 dri nking glass, 3 butter p..., 1 cane sieve, 1 sifter, 1 grindstone, 1 candle sticks, 1 Bible, 1 Testament, 1 gallon stone jug, 6 glass bottles, 2 cid er casks, 1 beer cask,..., 1 pr. new cart wheels, 1 brush, 1 old bay hors e, 1 young horse, 12 head of cattle, 5 calves, 11 head of sheep, 17 he ad of old hogs, 29 shoats of about a year old, 2 pewter basons, 1 ivory co mb, 1 horn comb. Robert R. Tucker, Esq.

Children of CAPT. TUCKER and ELIZABETH PARHAM are:
6. i. JAMES4 TUCKER, SR., b. 1698, Charles City, VA; d. October 19, 1770, Mecklinburg Co., Va. 7. ii. ROBERT TUCKER, JR, b. 1706, Prince Georges County, VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 8. iii. GEORGE TUCKER, SR., b. 1710, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1784, Lunenberg Co., VA. 9. iv. JOHN TUCKER, SR., b. Abt. 1712, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 10. v. WILLIAM TUCKER, SR., b. Bef. 1720, Prince George Co., VA; d. Aft. 1785, Amelia Co., VA.
Children of CAPT. TUCKER and MARTHA EPPS are:
vi. ANNE4 TUCKER, b. August 29, 1719. Notes for ANNE TUCKER:
Bristol Parish Register: Anne dau: of Robt & Martha Tucker born Aug: 29 th last bapt octobr 9th 1720.
11. vii. JOSEPH TUCKER, b. June 22, 1722, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1798, Prince Edward County, VA. 12. viii. DANIEL TUCKER, b. January 1723/24, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1792, Wake Co., NC. 13. ix. SARAH TUCKER, b. May 10, 1725; d. Aft. 1782.

----- Original Message -----

From: Norm Brown

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:59 AM

Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated


For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tuckersolutions/index.html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown


Melissa Clark
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Norm

This is interesting..my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown



Melissa Clark
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Paper trails can be difficult for some people. I know the two that are a 67 marker match to me are having issues forming a paper trail to their "supposed" ancestor that may very well be a brother to mine. It is difficult beyond 1850 census or so because they didnt list anyone but the head of household. If there were no wills or any other papers to get a lead on then it creates quite a conundrum. I am in that boat but I made it to finding a relative born in 1785 that I can link up to someone after that. Before the 1850 census however it is an issue. I wish you the best of luck with that paper trail. Lord knows all of us are in that same box at one point or another.

Melissa from Texas

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Alice Dilts wrote:

From: Alice Dilts
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 6:59 PM



I have not had either of my brothers do the DNA test and Iam just following what I have found on Ancestry.com. As I said I am new to this so would like to find a class to take so I can understand what I need to do to have the paper trail. I don't even understand how I should show it to email it so you could follow the trail I am on!

----- Original Message -----

From: kjames34@bellsouth. net

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com ; TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com

Cc: Alice Dilts

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:31 AM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

Alice, how do you think you are related to "Old Dan" Tucker. My reason for asking is my brother is off only one marker with the other descendants of Daniel Tucker and I would love to find the missing line.

Katherine James (bro. 83997)

------------ -- Original message from "Alice Dilts" <alicedilts@comcast. net>: ------------ --

Very nice site. Thanks for reactivating it. As I do my research I am finding a lot of my Tucker line went to Kentucky from Virginia. Does anyone know of a good online class to take to learn about Geneology? My research is leading me to believe I am related to "Ole" Dan Tucker. This is something I found during my research.

Alice Tucker Dilts

Originally submitted by reylara to Nan Macon's Family on 2 Dec 2007

Notes for CAPT. ROBERT TUCKER:
Harold Lawrence writes in his book THE TUCKER BAND, Tuckers and Related Fa milies, page 2: Before 1712, Capt. Tucker had surveyed and patented la nd in Prince George, Co, VA, in the area that later became Amelia Count y. According to Abstracts Land Patents, on 7-15-1717, Robert Tucker paten ted 141 acres in Prince George County for fifteen shillings. He probab ly gave or sold this parcel of land to his oldest son before 1736. It is n oteworthy that although Capt. Robert Tucker patented land in Prince Geor ge County as well as Amelia County, it is unlikely he moved from coun ty to county. He probably lived his entire life in the same area while t he counties were divided and subdivided.

During 1727, Capt. Tucker acquired some 500 additional acres on Wotocamai ck Creek and Middle Creek. In October, 1741, he deeded to son John 1 65 & 1/2 acres for L100; to son George 200 acres for L70; and to son Robe rt 165 acres for L100. In August, 1744, he acquired 176 acres in Amelia C ounty (after Amelia County was formed from Brunswick and Prince George Cou nties in 1734). Capt. Robert Tucker died in Amelia County in 1750. His w ife, followed by his son Daniel, inherited this parcel of land. Also nam ed in his will were children Joseph, Sarah, and Robert. An abstract of t he will, as found in Will Book 1, Amelia County, VA (173501761 ), p. 63 is as follows:

"Robert Tucker, written 26 September, 1744; proven 18 May, 1750. Wit. Jo hn Cordie, Jr., Henry (x) Hasten, John Powell. Ex. son Robert. Leg. wife M artha, land and plantation on where I live for life; then to son Daniel; s on Joseph, daughter Sarah Clay; son Robert; rest of personal est. to be eq ually divided between my children. No appraisem*nt to be made. Slaves: Ne gro men Joe, Dick; Negro girl, Sall."

An inventory of the estate of Capt. Robert Tucker was made on 3-15-1750 a nd is recorded in Will Book 1, pg 73 of Amelia County, VA. It includes t he following possessions of Capt. Robert Tucker:

"1 Negro fellow named Joe, 1 Negro fellow named Dick, 1 Negro girl named S all, 2 feather beds and furniture, 3 sheets, 2 pillows, 9 leather chair s, 2 large black leather trunks, 1 oval table, 1 square table, 2 large old ..., 1 pair pistols and holsters, 1 fence sword, 1 old hand iron, 1 pair s tillards, 1 pair fire tongs, shovel..., 1 iron pot rack, 3 iron pots, 1 br ass kettle,..., 1 frying pan, 1 box iron,..., 2 iron wedges, 2 narrow ad ze (?), 3 flat dishes, 1 deep dish, 9 new plates, 5 old plates, 1 doz. n ew spoons, 9 old spoons, 2 old pewter tankards, 1 old looking glass, 1 dri nking glass, 3 butter p..., 1 cane sieve, 1 sifter, 1 grindstone, 1 candle sticks, 1 Bible, 1 Testament, 1 gallon stone jug, 6 glass bottles, 2 cid er casks, 1 beer cask,..., 1 pr. new cart wheels, 1 brush, 1 old bay hors e, 1 young horse, 12 head of cattle, 5 calves, 11 head of sheep, 17 he ad of old hogs, 29 shoats of about a year old, 2 pewter basons, 1 ivory co mb, 1 horn comb. Robert R. Tucker, Esq.

Children of CAPT. TUCKER and ELIZABETH PARHAM are:
6. i. JAMES4 TUCKER, SR., b. 1698, Charles City, VA; d. October 19, 1770, Mecklinburg Co., Va. 7. ii. ROBERT TUCKER, JR, b. 1706, Prince Georges County, VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 8. iii. GEORGE TUCKER, SR., b. 1710, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1784, Lunenberg Co., VA. 9. iv. JOHN TUCKER, SR., b. Abt. 1712, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 10. v. WILLIAM TUCKER, SR., b. Bef. 1720, Prince George Co., VA; d. Aft. 1785, Amelia Co., VA.
Children of CAPT. TUCKER and MARTHA EPPS are:
vi. ANNE4 TUCKER, b. August 29, 1719. Notes for ANNE TUCKER:
Bristol Parish Register: Anne dau: of Robt & Martha Tucker born Aug: 29 th last bapt octobr 9th 1720.
11. vii. JOSEPH TUCKER, b. June 22, 1722, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1798, Prince Edward County, VA. 12. viii. DANIEL TUCKER, b. January 1723/24, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1792, Wake Co., NC. 13. ix. SARAH TUCKER, b. May 10, 1725; d. Aft. 1782.

----- Original Message -----

From: Norm Brown

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:59 AM

Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated


For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown



Alice Dilts

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I have a cousin that lives here in Illinois that ismarried to a Bruce but she isn't from the Tucker line. She is from mymothers side.

Alice Tucker Dilts

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----- Original Message -----

From: Melissa Lay

To: TUCKERS@...

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

Norm

This is interesting..my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown



Katherine James

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Alice, Google "Genealogy l0l" or "genealogy for beginners" or go to "free genealogy charts" and you can print out whatever you need. start with your parents. Your grandparents for each parent and so on until you can go no further. There are lots of free charts out there. Misbach.com is a good for free charts.

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I have not had either of my brothers do the DNA test and Iam just following what I have found on Ancestry.com. As I said I am new to this so would like to find a class to take so I can understand what I need to do to have the paper trail. I don't even understand how I should show it to email it so you could follow the trail I am on!

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From: kjames34@bellsouth.net

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com ; TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Alice Dilts

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:31 AM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

Alice, how do you think you are related to "Old Dan" Tucker. My reason for asking is my brother is off only one marker with the other descendants of Daniel Tucker and I would love to find the missing line.

Katherine James (bro. 83997)

-------------- Original message from "Alice Dilts" <alicedilts@comcast.net>: --------------

Very nice site. Thanks for reactivating it. As I do my research I am finding a lot of my Tucker line went to Kentucky from Virginia. Does anyone know of a good online class to take to learn about Geneology? My research is leading me to believe I am related to "Ole" Dan Tucker. This is something I found during my research.

Alice Tucker Dilts

Originally submitted by reylara to Nan Macon's Family on 2 Dec 2007

Notes for CAPT. ROBERT TUCKER:
Harold Lawrence writes in his book THE TUCKER BAND, Tuckers and Related Fa milies, page 2: Before 1712, Capt. Tucker had surveyed and patented la nd in Prince George, Co, VA, in the area that later became Amelia Count y. According to Abstracts Land Patents, on 7-15-1717, Robert Tucker paten ted 141 acres in Prince George County for fifteen shillings. He probab ly gave or sold this parcel of land to his oldest son before 1736. It is n oteworthy that although Capt. Robert Tucker patented land in Prince Geor ge County as well as Amelia County, it is unlikely he moved from coun ty to county. He probably lived his entire life in the same area while t he counties were divided and subdivided.

During 1727, Capt. Tucker acquired some 500 additional acres on Wotocamai ck Creek and Middle Creek. In October, 1741, he deeded to son John 1 65 & 1/2 acres for L100; to son George 200 acres for L70; and to son Robe rt 165 acres for L100. In August, 1744, he acquired 176 acres in Amelia C ounty (after Amelia County was formed from Brunswick and Prince George Cou nties in 1734). Capt. Robert Tucker died in Amelia County in 1750. His w ife, followed by his son Daniel, inherited this parcel of land. Also nam ed in his will were children Joseph, Sarah, and Robert. An abstract of t he will, as found in Will Book 1, Amelia County, VA (173501761 ), p. 63 is as follows:

"Robert Tucker, written 26 September, 1744; proven 18 May, 1750. Wit. Jo hn Cordie, Jr., Henry (x) Hasten, John Powell. Ex. son Robert. Leg. wife M artha, land and plantation on where I live for life; then to son Daniel; s on Joseph, daughter Sarah Clay; son Robert; rest of personal est. to be eq ually divided between my children. No appraisem*nt to be made. Slaves: Ne gro men Joe, Dick; Negro girl, Sall."

An inventory of the estate of Capt. Robert Tucker was made on 3-15-1750 a nd is recorded in Will Book 1, pg 73 of Amelia County, VA. It includes t he following possessions of Capt. Robert Tucker:

"1 Negro fellow named Joe, 1 Negro fellow named Dick, 1 Negro girl named S all, 2 feather beds and furniture, 3 sheets, 2 pillows, 9 leather chair s, 2 large black leather trunks, 1 oval table, 1 square table, 2 large old ..., 1 pair pistols and holsters, 1 fence sword, 1 old hand iron, 1 pair s tillards, 1 pair fire tongs, shovel..., 1 iron pot rack, 3 iron pots, 1 br ass kettle,..., 1 frying pan, 1 box iron,..., 2 iron wedges, 2 narrow ad ze (?), 3 flat dishes, 1 deep dish, 9 new plates, 5 old plates, 1 doz. n ew spoons, 9 old spoons, 2 old pewter tankards, 1 old looking glass, 1 dri nking glass, 3 butter p..., 1 cane sieve, 1 sifter, 1 grindstone, 1 candle sticks, 1 Bible, 1 Testament, 1 gallon stone jug, 6 glass bottles, 2 cid er casks, 1 beer cask,..., 1 pr. new cart wheels, 1 brush, 1 old bay hors e, 1 young horse, 12 head of cattle, 5 calves, 11 head of sheep, 17 he ad of old hogs, 29 shoats of about a year old, 2 pewter basons, 1 ivory co mb, 1 horn comb. Robert R. Tucker, Esq.

Children of CAPT. TUCKER and ELIZABETH PARHAM are:
6. i. JAMES4 TUCKER, SR., b. 1698, Charles City, VA; d. October 19, 1770, Mecklinburg Co., Va. 7. ii. ROBERT TUCKER, JR, b. 1706, Prince Georges County, VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 8. iii. GEORGE TUCKER, SR., b. 1710, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1784, Lunenberg Co., VA. 9. iv. JOHN TUCKER, SR., b. Abt. 1712, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1769, Amelia Co., VA. 10. v. WILLIAM TUCKER, SR., b. Bef. 1720, Prince George Co., VA; d. Aft. 1785, Amelia Co., VA.
Children of CAPT. TUCKER and MARTHA EPPS are:
vi. ANNE4 TUCKER, b. August 29, 1719. Notes for ANNE TUCKER:
Bristol Parish Register: Anne dau: of Robt & Martha Tucker born Aug: 29 th last bapt octobr 9th 1720.
11. vii. JOSEPH TUCKER, b. June 22, 1722, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1798, Prince Edward County, VA. 12. viii. DANIEL TUCKER, b. January 1723/24, Prince George Co., VA; d. 1792, Wake Co., NC. 13. ix. SARAH TUCKER, b. May 10, 1725; d. Aft. 1782.

----- Original Message -----

From: Norm Brown

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:59 AM

Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated


For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tuckersolutions/index.html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown


Norm Brown

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#12339


Hi Melissa

This man, Harve Bruce was considered the best shot in the State. He was a moonshiner.

U S deputy Marshals raided his still and he killed them. He got 3 year sentence for illigal distilling and was tried and convicted for the deputies murders. He was given 6 months, state prison and was made a guard on the outer wall. The warden said there was no point is wasting the talent of the best shot around. I did not believe it at first, until I found the proof.

As far as I know he is not related to any Tuckers. He is just someone whom I found fasicinating to write about. My book will cover a lot of different men but George Tucker is the only one related to my wife's side. His story is well documented as was Dee Harkey's.

What I did was to review what they said and tried to proven or disporve the facts. With Tucker, instead of rewriting what the reporter said, I used him as first person to retell his story with corrections of fact.

Thanks

Norm Brown


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From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 2:03 PM

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown




Melissa Clark
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#12341


This does not surprise me in the slightest. My father and his brothers are well known where they grew up. They are all very easy to spot and either went one way or the other...into the armed forces or into trouble. My father wasnt allowed in the armed forces due to flat feet so he kinda got into a little trouble and my mother straightened him out. He happens to be the shortest of the bunch at a heighth of 5'10" and all his brothers are well over six fool with the tallest somewhere around 6'6". The six of them stirred up trouble in the little town they grew up in and all are very familiar with guns. Each of them were taught to shoot very well and for some of them it was a great advantage in wars. My Uncle Guy took four tours in Vietnam in special forces. He is a force to be reckoned with if he has a gun. I have seen him shoot and I have also seen him sneak up on someone...scared me to death. All of them give me the willies when they are bent on getting something "straightened out". So it doesnt surprise me that there is another Bruce out there with some attitude that needed adjusting. It also doesnt surprise me that the warden decided to use the man to help guard stuff. As I said they either go one way or the other..it just looks like this one went both ways at some point. LOL

Melissa from Texas

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:52 PM

Hi Melissa

This man, Harve Bruce was considered the best shot in the State. He was a moonshiner.

U S deputy Marshals raided his still and he killed them. He got 3 year sentence for illigal distilling and was tried and convicted for the deputies murders. He was given 6 months, state prison and was made a guard on the outer wall. The warden said there was no point is wasting the talent of the best shot around. I did not believe it at first, until I found the proof.

As far as I know he is not related to any Tuckers. He is just someone whom I found fasicinating to write about. My book will cover a lot of different men but George Tucker is the only one related to my wife's side. His story is well documented as was Dee Harkey's.

What I did was to review what they said and tried to proven or disporve the facts. With Tucker, instead of rewriting what the reporter said, I used him as first person to retell his story with corrections of fact.

Thanks

Norm Brown


From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 2:03 PM

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown





doug tucker

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#12343


Alice if you can get the name of you Tucker grandfather(great even better) his birth year and place, the Ol Dan researchers can fill in the rest ASAP. Save you lots of time and money$$$. We have several from Ol Dan in the group. Dougfl 25205

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Alice Dilts wrote:

From: Alice Dilts
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:28 PM

I have a cousin that lives here in Illinois that is married to a Bruce but she isn't from the Tucker line. She is from my mothers side.

Alice Tucker Dilts

----- Original Message -----

From: Melissa Lay

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo. com>
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown




alicedilts@comcast.net

#12345


I apologize if I don't put this down in the correct form but here goes:

My fatherwas Velvert Lee Tucker Sr b. 23 February 1914 in Seymour, IL d. 19 July 1992 in Champaign, IL Champaign County and is buried at Grandview Memorial Gardens in Champaign. He married Margaret Ellen Ferguson on December 21, 1945. Mom was born on 18 August 1924 in Gays, IL d. 16 May 1981 Champaign, IL also buried at Grandview. (When I have looked my Dad up various places they ALWAYS have misspelled his first name. In fact, almost every record I have seen for his brothers and sisters they have misspelled their names also!! Dad told me what their names are. I have seen other family trees and have tried to contact people to let them know they don't have the spellings correct but since it is in a Census or something they go with that. I mean some of my aunts and uncles on Dad's side I knew when I was a kid but I guess that isn't good enough.)

My grandfather was Parish Elmer Tucker b. 23 March 1883 Russel, KY d. March 1967 as is buried at Clements Cemetery in Urbana, IL. He married Juretta Belle Stephens b. 23 September 1885 d. 1967 and she is also buried at Clements Cemetary. (I am going to go to the cemetery and take a photo of their headstones.)

My great-grandfather was Eli Tucker b. 23 December 1849 d. 11 June 1919 and he married Narcissus Popplewell b.20 December 1849 d. 3 September 1908

My Dad is the one that told me his grandfather's name so this much I know for sure. I knew my grandfather Parish before he died.

I knew alot of Dad's family lived in Kentucky. My Uncle Virgil Delmar Tucker (he went by the nickname Slim) lived in Russell Springs, KY and I visited him there when I was a kid. I remember meeting some cousins there to but I don't know their names. My Uncle Slim had two daughters that I met that lived in Russell Springs, KY.

The line I followed from this point came from Ancestry.com.

My great-great grandfather was Gabriel Marion Tucker b 1803 Russell, KYd. 1880 Russell, KY married Martha Johnson b. 1805 Tennesee d. Russell, KY

My great-great-great grandfather was Gabriel Tucker b. 1769 Dinwiddie, VA d. 1838 Franklin, TN married Matilda Hicks Bell b. 1775 VA

My great-great-great-great-grandfather was Daniel Tucker (Old Dan) b. 14 February 1740 Amelia, VA d. 7 April 1818 Elberton, GA married Frances Epps b. 4 April 1750 Dinwiddie, VA d. 6 August 1823 Elberton, GA

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From: doug tucker
Alice if you can get the name of you Tucker grandfather(great even better) his birth year and place, the Ol Dan researchers can fill in the rest ASAP. Save you lots of time and money$$$. We have several from Ol Dan in the group. Dougfl 25205

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Alice Dilts net> wrote:

From: Alice Dilts net>
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:28 PM

I have a cousin that lives here in Illinois that is married to a Bruce but she isn't from the Tucker line. She is from my mothers side.

Alice Tucker Dilts

----- Original Message -----

From: Melissa Lay

To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:03 PM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo. com>
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown




Norm Brown

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#12347


I agree to some degree about Harve Bruce.

While Making Moonshine was against Federal Law we must consider the times and the attitudes.

These Mountain Men received no help from the Government and they actually provided a service while causing the Government to lose tax money only. The Government really gets bent out of shape when they lose tax money!

Then, they send two hotheaded marshals in with the intent to kill from ambush. Ole Harve said "I was minding my business when them turkeys opened up on me. I was in fear of my life as they made no effort to call out and identify themselves. For all I knew they were thugs out to rob and kill me." Self-defense? To a degree, yes!

He just may be related to your clan uh?

Norm

Norm Brown

Don't judge people by their relatives & Forgive your enemies. It messes with their heads.

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Melissa Lay wrote:

From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 6:06 PM

This does not surprise me in the slightest. My father and his brothers are well known where they grew up. They are all very easy to spot and either went one way or the other...into the armed forces or into trouble. My father wasnt allowed in the armed forces due to flat feet so he kinda got into a little trouble and my mother straightened him out. He happens to be the shortest of the bunch at a heighth of 5'10" and all his brothers are well over six fool with the tallest somewhere around 6'6". The six of them stirred up trouble in the little town they grew up in and all are very familiar with guns. Each of them were taught to shoot very well and for some of them it was a great advantage in wars. My Uncle Guy took four tours in Vietnam in special forces. He is a force to be reckoned with if he has a gun. I have seen him shoot and I have also seen him sneak up on someone...scared me to death. All of them give me the willies when they are bent on getting something "straightened out". So it doesnt surprise me that there is another Bruce out there with some attitude that needed adjusting. It also doesnt surprise me that the warden decided to use the man to help guard stuff. As I said they either go one way or the other..it just looks like this one went both ways at some point. LOL

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:52 PM

Hi Melissa

This man, Harve Bruce was considered the best shot in the State. He was a moonshiner.

U S deputy Marshals raided his still and he killed them. He got 3 year sentence for illigal distilling and was tried and convicted for the deputies murders. He was given 6 months, state prison and was made a guard on the outer wall. The warden said there was no point is wasting the talent of the best shot around. I did not believe it at first, until I found the proof.

As far as I know he is not related to any Tuckers. He is just someone whom I found fasicinating to write about. My book will cover a lot of different men but George Tucker is the only one related to my wife's side. His story is well documented as was Dee Harkey's.

What I did was to review what they said and tried to proven or disporve the facts. With Tucker, instead of rewriting what the reporter said, I used him as first person to retell his story with corrections of fact.

Thanks

Norm Brown


From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 2:03 PM

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown






Melissa Clark
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#12349


It sounds like a possibility...maybe off in a distance. All of the Bruces seem to have this air of indignation. They also seem to think they should shoot first and ask questions later.

Melissa from TExas

106218

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--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 2:24 PM

I agree to some degree about Harve Bruce.

While Making Moonshine was against Federal Law we must consider the times and the attitudes.

These Mountain Men received no help from the Government and they actually provided a service while causing the Government to lose tax money only. The Government really gets bent out of shape when they lose tax money!

Then, they send two hotheaded marshals in with the intent to kill from ambush. Ole Harve said "I was minding my business when them turkeys opened up on me. I was in fear of my life as they made no effort to call out and identify themselves. For all I knew they were thugs out to rob and kill me." Self-defense? To a degree, yes!

He just may be related to your clan uh?

Norm

Norm Brown

Don't judge people by their relatives & Forgive your enemies. It messes with their heads.

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Melissa Lay wrote:

From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 6:06 PM

This does not surprise me in the slightest. My father and his brothers are well known where they grew up. They are all very easy to spot and either went one way or the other...into the armed forces or into trouble. My father wasnt allowed in the armed forces due to flat feet so he kinda got into a little trouble and my mother straightened him out. He happens to be the shortest of the bunch at a heighth of 5'10" and all his brothers are well over six fool with the tallest somewhere around 6'6". The six of them stirred up trouble in the little town they grew up in and all are very familiar with guns. Each of them were taught to shoot very well and for some of them it was a great advantage in wars. My Uncle Guy took four tours in Vietnam in special forces. He is a force to be reckoned with if he has a gun. I have seen him shoot and I have also seen him sneak up on someone...scared me to death. All of them give me the willies when they are bent on getting something "straightened out". So it doesnt surprise me that there is another Bruce out there with some attitude that needed adjusting. It also doesnt surprise me that the warden decided to use the man to help guard stuff. As I said they either go one way or the other..it just looks like this one went both ways at some point. LOL

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:52 PM

Hi Melissa

This man, Harve Bruce was considered the best shot in the State. He was a moonshiner.

U S deputy Marshals raided his still and he killed them. He got 3 year sentence for illigal distilling and was tried and convicted for the deputies murders. He was given 6 months, state prison and was made a guard on the outer wall. The warden said there was no point is wasting the talent of the best shot around. I did not believe it at first, until I found the proof.

As far as I know he is not related to any Tuckers. He is just someone whom I found fasicinating to write about. My book will cover a lot of different men but George Tucker is the only one related to my wife's side. His story is well documented as was Dee Harkey's.

What I did was to review what they said and tried to proven or disporve the facts. With Tucker, instead of rewriting what the reporter said, I used him as first person to retell his story with corrections of fact.

Thanks

Norm Brown


From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 2:03 PM

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown







Alice Dilts

#12350


Not meaning to get to far off the conversation here buttalking about moonshiners made me remember something.

My mother (Margaret Ellen Ferguson) told me thatwhen she and my Dad (Velvert Lee Tucker Sr) first got married they were down inKentucky at the Alligator Docks and Dad was drinking moonshine out of a fruitjar (canning jar). Years later when we visited my uncle he took my brother(George Edward Tucker Sr) to meet some cousins. We drove up this rode intothe hills as far as we could and then we had to walk the rest of the wayup. Uncle Slim (Virgil Delmer Tucker) said when he told us to stop we wereto stop and hold our hands out from our bodies. We walked and then therewas a lot of sounds kind of like birds andthen my Uncle answered in awhistle sound like a bird and he told us to stop. So we did and put ourhands away from our bodies then there was more whistling and he said we couldkeep walking. Then a family came out from the woods and Uncle Slimintroduced us to our cousins. I sure wish I could remember theirnames!

I guess the whole point to this story was assuming theywere making moonshine even then (1967 or so) they sure were careful aboutwho came up the hill.

Alice Tucker Dilts

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----- Original Message -----

From: Melissa Lay

To: TUCKERS@...

Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 1:04 PM

Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated

It sounds like a possibility...maybe off in a distance. All of the Bruces seem to have this air of indignation. They also seem to think they should shoot first and ask questions later.

Melissa from TExas

106218

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Norm Brown <turfbinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 2:24 PM

I agree to some degree about Harve Bruce.

While Making Moonshine was against Federal Law we must consider the times and the attitudes.

These Mountain Men received no help from the Government and they actually provided a service while causing the Government to lose tax money only. The Government really gets bent out of shape when they lose tax money!

Then, they send two hotheaded marshals in with the intent to kill from ambush. Ole Harve said "I was minding my business when them turkeys opened up on me. I was in fear of my life as they made no effort to call out and identify themselves. For all I knew they were thugs out to rob and kill me." Self-defense? To a degree, yes!

He just may be related to your clan uh?

Norm

Norm Brown

Don't judge people by their relatives & Forgive your enemies. It messes with their heads.

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Melissa Lay wrote:

From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 6:06 PM

This does not surprise me in the slightest. My father and his brothers are well known where they grew up. They are all very easy to spot and either went one way or the other...into the armed forces or into trouble. My father wasnt allowed in the armed forces due to flat feet so he kinda got into a little trouble and my mother straightened him out. He happens to be the shortest of the bunch at a heighth of 5'10" and all his brothers are well over six fool with the tallest somewhere around 6'6". The six of them stirred up trouble in the little town they grew up in and all are very familiar with guns. Each of them were taught to shoot very well and for some of them it was a great advantage in wars. My Uncle Guy took four tours in Vietnam in special forces. He is a force to be reckoned with if he has a gun. I have seen him shoot and I have also seen him sneak up on someone...scared me to death. All of them give me the willies when they are bent on getting something "straightened out". So it doesnt surprise me that there is another Bruce out there with some attitude that needed adjusting. It also doesnt surprise me that the warden decided to use the man to help guard stuff. As I said they either go one way or the other..it just looks like this one went both ways at some point. LOL

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:52 PM

Hi Melissa

This man, Harve Bruce was considered the best shot in the State. He was a moonshiner.

U S deputy Marshals raided his still and he killed them. He got 3 year sentence for illigal distilling and was tried and convicted for the deputies murders. He was given 6 months, state prison and was made a guard on the outer wall. The warden said there was no point is wasting the talent of the best shot around. I did not believe it at first, until I found the proof.

As far as I know he is not related to any Tuckers. He is just someone whom I found fasicinating to write about. My book will cover a lot of different men but George Tucker is the only one related to my wife's side. His story is well documented as was Dee Harkey's.

What I did was to review what they said and tried to proven or disporve the facts. With Tucker, instead of rewriting what the reporter said, I used him as first person to retell his story with corrections of fact.

Thanks

Norm Brown


From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 2:03 PM

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown







Joan Flatt

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#12352


Melissa,

I loved your comment about one of yours deciding to go both ways. It reminded me of my husband's great-uncle who was a Missouri Bushwhacker. His name was "Genuine" Jim Jamison (there having been at least two Jim Jamisons in the same region--he seemed to feel that it was necessary to let folks know that he was the gentleman who was the "real thing") TUCKERGenealogy@groups.io | Tucker website reactivated (5) After the Civil War, he was ultimately issued a pardon by Missouri's governor. The VERY interesting thing about this man was that he left Missouri (for obvious reasons) and went to TX where he became a Texas Ranger.

It is said that he was a "no nonsense" kind of guy and was actually a quiet sort. Some have said that this quietness was pretty intimidating to his enemies. They couldn't assess his mind-set because his speech betrayed absolutely nothing. He died a very highly respected lawman whose obituary was pretty flowery in his local newspaper. Just thought I would throw this in to illustrate the point that sometimes we are shaped by the necessities of the moment. He could be what I suppose would be termed as pretty "mean" and "ornery" when the occasion arose and where he chose to fight depended upon the needs (as he perceived them) at the time.

Joan

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Melissa Lay wrote:

From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 6:06 PM

This does not surprise me in the slightest. My father and his brothers are well known where they grew up. They are all very easy to spot and either went one way or the other...into the armed forces or into trouble. My father wasnt allowed in the armed forces due to flat feet so he kinda got into a little trouble and my mother straightened him out. He happens to be the shortest of the bunch at a heighth of 5'10" and all his brothers are well over six fool with the tallest somewhere around 6'6". The six of them stirred up trouble in the little town they grew up in and all are very familiar with guns. Each of them were taught to shoot very well and for some of them it was a great advantage in wars. My Uncle Guy took four tours in Vietnam in special forces. He is a force to be reckoned with if he has a gun. I have seen him shoot and I have also seen him sneak up on someone...scared me to death. All of them give me the willies when they are bent on getting something "straightened out". So it doesnt surprise me that there is another Bruce out there with some attitude that needed adjusting. It also doesnt surprise me that the warden decided to use the man to help guard stuff. As I said they either go one way or the other..it just looks like this one went both ways at some point. LOL

Melissa from Texas

106218

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:52 PM

Hi Melissa

This man, Harve Bruce was considered the best shot in the State. He was a moonshiner.

U S deputy Marshals raided his still and he killed them. He got 3 year sentence for illigal distilling and was tried and convicted for the deputies murders. He was given 6 months, state prison and was made a guard on the outer wall. The warden said there was no point is wasting the talent of the best shot around. I did not believe it at first, until I found the proof.

As far as I know he is not related to any Tuckers. He is just someone whom I found fasicinating to write about. My book will cover a lot of different men but George Tucker is the only one related to my wife's side. His story is well documented as was Dee Harkey's.

What I did was to review what they said and tried to proven or disporve the facts. With Tucker, instead of rewriting what the reporter said, I used him as first person to retell his story with corrections of fact.

Thanks

Norm Brown


From: Melissa Lay
Subject: Re: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 2:03 PM

Norm

This is interesting. .my maiden name is Bruce. Funny that the Tuckers and Bruces have crossed paths before.

Melissa from Texas

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--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Norm Brown wrote:

From: Norm Brown
Subject: [TUCKERS] Tucker website reactivated
To: TUCKERS@yahoogroups .com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:59 PM

For those who are interested my website "Tucker Solutions" at http://freepages. genealogy. rootsweb. ancestry. com/~tuckersolut ions/index. html

has been reactivated. I have been inactive for a long time due to health issues.

But I have been reading the posts and I must say, this is a very active group. Busier than honey bees on a blooming crabapple tree!

While I do have a bit of infomation on the site, I have decided to focus primarily on the Arkansas Tucker settlers and their related families.

In addition to this Iplansome pages on what I call "General Western History" with stories about Harve Bruce, the moonshiner, Jeff Hardin, gunfighter and brother to famous John Wesley, George Redman Tucker and Dee Harkey, both pioneer Texas Lawmen. These will be excert's from the book I am working on called "Two Gun Ways" subtitle "Frontier Lawmen Harkey, Tucker, & little Hardin". About three men with different views...or maybe not!

George Redman Tucker gave an interview in the early 1900's, which was indepth about his life. He said he was tried by Hanging Judge Parker in Fort Smith but turned loose! I obtained the court records from the national archives and he did, in fact, face a jury and the hanging Judge as stated. He did tell some big windy's about the trail. These ole Pioneers never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Another character, listed above, said his brother was killed in 1880 by a man with a 30-30 winchester rifle. Well, the 30-30 was not even sold on the market until 1895 but it was a fact that the man did, in fact, kill his brother. Again, research proves the stretching of truth to make a good story.

If you have suggestions or comments about the site I am always listening! I am not sure how many on this list are related to our Arkansas bunch but I know Eilleen and Bill are.

My wife Bettie has two sets of Tuckers of Arkansas...Robert (we think) who was from NC but not linked to a specific line that I am aware of and the other Tucker was of KY and moved to Indiana. One went to AR after the civil war.

Have a great Day! Oops! Eileen...Please send me your URL again so I can change that at the site. You asked me long ago, back when I was ill with "Hoof & Mouth"!

Norm Brown






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